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A bi-monthly review of what's new with officespace.com and the Seattle commercial real estate marketplace

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1.  LANDLORDS SKEPTICAL ABOUT NET STARTUPS

2.  NORRIS BEGGS NEARS THE EXIT

3.  BROKERS ON THE MOVE     

4.  PSBJ-CSO LEASING GUIDE

5.  WHAT’S NEW ON CSO

6.  SUBSCRIBING, CANCELING AND FEEDBACK

 

1.  Landlords skeptical about Net Startups

Excerpts from an article by May Wong, AP Technology Writer
Reprinted with permission from the
Seattle Daily Journal of Commerce

The days of love at first sight are over for Internet startups in their search for office space.

As recently as four months ago, practically anything related to the Internet had tremendous appeal to commercial landlords, who accepted stock options as rent and sometimes didn't even seek letters of credit.

The online industry still holds sex-symbol status in the economy, but mere looks aren't everything anymore in California. Since the tech-heavy NASDAQ cooled, landlords have begun to worry they could be left in the lurch if today's hot dot-com company bottoms out.

Now commercial property owners are taking the time to carefully size up a potential Internet business tenant, seeing if it has a good head on its shoulders and a profitable business plan.

And in some cases, landlords are just saying no from the start.

"Landlords were happy to take dot-coms if they delivered stock options. Now landlords are getting more concerned. They're asking for more financial data. They're also looking at financial projections. They're almost acting like Wall Street financial analysts," said David Oppenheimer, chief financial officer of Digital Impact, a San Mateo, Calif.-based e-mail marketing company that went public Nov. 22.

Oppenheimer, who is always shopping for more space for his growing 2-year-old Internet company, said landlords or their agents are demanding more than business plans. Some also want face-to-face meetings with company principals.

"Space doesn't lease overnight like it did before," said Meade Boutwell, a director in the San Francisco office of Cushman & Wakefield, an international property management firm. "Things have taken a more reasoned, calm approach instead of the rampant got-to-have-it-tomorrow approach."

As a result, some Internet tenants are being forced to give up must-have California addresses and shop for space in less attractive areas.

"Dot-com tenants are starting to look at other submarkets like downtown L.A., where there's still a double-digit vacancy rate, one of the few places in the country that still has that," said Hunt Barnett, a senior managing director for Insignia/ESG, one of the nation's leading commercial real estate services providers.

The love affair ended around April after NASDAQ stocks took a plunge and the tech-heavy stock market sobered up, bringing about a more cautious approach in all high-tech deals.

"The NASDAQ correction threw cold water on it, and everybody said, `What are we doing here?"' Barnett said.

The correction has done nothing to ease pressures on the commercial leasing market. Single-digit vacancy rates have driven rents in the San Francisco region to as high as $70 to $85 per square foot per year.

"The real challenge for the young company is getting selected to lease space," said David Churton, senior managing director for the San Francisco region for Insignia/ESG. "Historically, the person who pays the most or the one who pays the most options would get selected, but now it's whoever has the strongest company with the secondary focus on who pays the most."

Some buildings have pulled themselves off the dot-com market completely.

"Even though we have excellent tech-company clients, we've been told, `We're not going to deal with the tech companies anymore," Churton said.

The chilling effect certainly didn't help Thirsty.com, an infotainment Web site geared for teens. The Los Angeles-area startup had been looking for office space since late 1999. It moved into a building in Westwood this month, but only after a bit of strong persuasion.

"The landlord was saying we have had enough of the dot-coms, and I said, `No.' I told him we deserved a day in court," said Barnett, who set up a meeting where Thirsty.com had to make a pitch similar to one it made to its angel investors.

"My client is personable and persuasive," Barnett said, "so it went well."

 

2.  Norris Beggs nears the exit
Excerpts from an article by Joe Nabbefeld, Staff Reporter
Reprinted with permission from the
Puget Sound Business Journal

 Norris Beggs & Simpson, Portland's largest commercial brokerage, is about to concede that its 13-year struggle to make it in the Puget Sound area is a bust.

The firm is negotiating to place the last six brokers in its Bellevue office with another brokerage and plans to then retreat from this market, said H. Roger Qualman, a Norris Beggs principal and executive vice president who came up from Portland almost two years ago to make yet another stab at this market.

Norris Beggs wants to keep its three property managers and two real estate finance employees in place in the Bellevue office but leave brokering to others.

"It's a very difficult recruiting environment and we just have to make a business decision," Qualman said in an interview. "You would think when times are as good as they are that there's plenty of business, but actually with the markets as tight as they are (due to record low vacancy rates), there's not. ... For us, this is a very tough business decision to make."

The firm "isn't abandoning our customers," Qualman said. He is trying to move the Bellevue-based brokers to another firm where they can keep serving existing customers, but he has a "fall-back position" that will keep those brokers in action.

Qualman declined to name which company his firm is negotiating with. He also didn't provide a schedule for when the changes may occur but spoke of them as likely to happen soon.

Veteran Bellevue real estate executive Bob Wallace said other shakeouts in area brokerages likely will occur in the coming months as firms that haven't capitalized as much on the sizzling market move boldly to reverse that before the sizzle cools.

"We'll see a lot of activity in the next few months," Wallace said.

Low stock prices for some publicly traded big firms like CB Richard Ellis likely will drive those firms to make some moves, Wallace said. In other cases, some young firms formed earlier in this hot cycle by experience brokers who pulled out of big firms have established themselves and will acquire others that haven't fared so well, he said.

One young Seattle-based firm of this sort is actively negotiating to expand to the Eastside by buying an established small Bellevue-based firm headed by a seasoned broker who's growing interested in slowing down a bit.

Norris Beggs employs about 40 brokers, and a total staff of about 170, in Portland. Norris Beggs' President, J. Clayton Hering said in a March 1998 interview that the firm was shoring up its struggling, then-11-year-old Bellevue office for an all-out push to succeed in the Seattle-area.

Qualman took charge of the office, which moved to the 21st floor of Rainier Plaza in downtown Bellevue. He made a lot of public appearances and Norris Beggs sponsored events to boost its profile. But Qualman kept his home in Portland, commuting on weekends.

To succeed in the market, Norris Beggs had to lure experienced brokers away from other firms. Office investment and leasing broker Craig Hill jumped over from Grubb & Ellis. But Hill recently returned to Grubb.

Possibly the most telling blow came recently when Matt Wood, son of a Norris Beggs principal, left the family firm to join Kidder.

"For whatever reason it has just been a frustration for them here," said Wallace. "My sense is the niche they are pursuing is fairly crowded and tough to break into."

 

3.  BROKERS ON THE MOVE

After 13 years with The Andover Company, Scott Rice has started his own firm called The Real Estate Company LLC.  His focus will remain on servicing clients in the Kent Valley from Renton to Tacoma.  Rice will now expand his services to include development assistance and property management as well as leasing and sales brokerage. You can find Scott at: www.officespace.com/scottrice.

Unico Properties is proud to announce the promotion of Larry Klatt and Pat McCabe to regional vice president. Klatt's title includes "suburban group manager" while McCabe is downtown group manager. Klatt, a two-year Unico property manager, oversees 2.3 million square feet in Bellevue, Tacoma, Renton and Boise, Idaho.  McCabe, also with about two years at Unico, heads management of 3.5 million square feet in downtown Seattle

Fisher Properties is pleased to announce the promotion of Tina Pappas to director of marketing and leasing. Pappas, who worked previously as a broker for Colliers International, will concentrate first on leasing the new Fisher Plaza next to Seattle Center and the Fisher Industrial Technology Center in Auburn.

Wright Runstad is happy to announce the return of leasing whiz Susan Murphy.  Murphy’s stint in the dot-com world lasted seven month.  She left as Seattle-based Wright Runstad's leasing manager at the start of this year to work as Amazon.com's senior program manager for global real estate, in charge of finding office and distribution space in various locations around the world. Wright Runstad's peers then said the firm suffered a blow in losing Murphy. Since then, Amazon.com's stock has plunged, turning up the pressure on the e-tailing giant to become profitable and ratcheting down the need to find more office and distribution space.

Kidder, Mathews & Segner has been busy over the past six months, as we continue to add seasoned professionals to our team.  Some of the new faces include: Rachel Corp, formerly with JSH Properties (Retail specialist), Brian Adams, formerly with CB Richard Ellis (Eastside office/high tech specialist), Matt Wood, SIOR, formerly with Norris, Beggs & Simpson (Kent Valley industrial specialist), Linn Larsen, SIOR, formerly with Larsen Real Estate Services (Pierce County industrial specialist), Zach Vall-Spinosa, formerly with CB Richard Ellis (Eastside office/high tech specialist), Joe Lynch, formerly with CB Richard Ellis (Eastside office/high tech specialist), Pete Norman, formerly with Windermere (Pierce County investment specialist) , Harry Harkaway, formerly with a firm in upstate New York (Seattle office specialist) , Tom Robison, formerly with Regency Group (Eastside industrial/office specialist), Tim O’Kane, formerly with NW Retail Partners (Retail specialist), Brian Nelson, formerly with NW Retail Partners (Retail specialist), Steve McKinney, formerly with Flannigan & Ewing (Pierce County office specialist).  KMS  brokerage division now totals 87 professionals.

 

4.  PSBJ-CSO LEASING GUIDE

We are excited to offer you a free marketing opportunity by publishing your real estate listings in the Puget Sound Business Journal's Real Estate Leasing Guide. The Leasing Guide will be published in the October 27, 2000 issue of the Journal and reaches over 100,000 readers. For information on a subscription to the Puget Sound Business Journal, please visit their web site at www.bizjournals.com/seattle.

The deadline to submit information for this publication is Thursday, October 5, 2000 at 4:00 P.M. Only current data will be published in the Leasing Guide so we ask that you please check your listings at www.officespace.com and verify that the information listed is accurate and current (updated within the past 30 days).

You may also contact us directly to discuss any further changes you would like to see made to your listings(s) prior to the deadline. Phone: 206-287-1918 Fax: 206-287-8597 Email: heimb@officespace.com.

 

5.  WHAT'S NEW ON OFFICESPACE.COM

Land is now live.  Find raw land available for development and/or build-to-suit opportunities.  Have a land parcel to add?  Fill out an add property form and return it to us.  Land information will also be submitted to the Puget Sound Business Journal for publication in the October Leasing Guide.

Our listings can now be searched to quickly find those for lease properties that are also available For Sale.  If you have a for lease property in our database that is also available for sale, please indicate such when you return an update request to us.  This information will also be noted in the Leasing Guide.

Recently completed is a web site for Pacific Real Estate Partners.  Check it out at www.pacific-re.com.


6.  SUBSCRIBING, CANCELING AND FEEDBACK

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